Marcus Freeman may have stumbled upon the ideal Spring Game format Saturday as the Offensive Blues triumphed over the defensive Golds 76-31 in front of 40,000 spectators on a beautiful spring day in South Bend. The game was surprisingly legible and smooth, even with intermittent 7-on-7 freakshow offerings interrobanging the full squad action.
Caveats apply for all Spring Game takeaways, but nevertheless, here we go.
#1 – You Can See the High Ceiling With CJ Carr at the Helm
There’s an old coaching sawhorse that goes something like this: Good defense is when you stop the run. Perfect defense is when you stop the run from two-high. Carr shows tantalizing glimpses in the above highlights of really turning the geometry of the field on Notre Dame’s favor.
- The dude’s mechanics are, I would dare to say, Clausenesque. That ball is high and tight and when he decides to go it comes out cleanly and with real, well-arced velocity to a downfield target. (I always have thought Clausen was overrated personally, but he threw a damn pretty ball)
- In this game, at least, he displayed that most elusive and precious quality for a QB: intuition and a sense of timing for downfield throws. This is so rare that even very good college QBs (looking at you Ian Book) never figure it out. Look at all three of his deep throws and there is a ton of calculus going on: overall scheme vis a vis defender leverage and positioning vis a vis who the receiver is vis a vis the actual throw.
- Very thin evidence here, but there were a few moments when he seemed to exhibit Ian Book-type agility. No idea as to his long speed but on the few occasions where he tried to run it seemed like he could get up to speed quickly and change direction well.
Thinking of how all the pieces might fit together, there is a lot to like here. Please observe this poorly/hastily drawn powerpoint slide:
Now, the real key assumptions here are as follows:
- Greathouse becoming a legitimately, national-level dangerous downfield guy in the CFP was anything but a mirage
- Faison continues to improve
Rairdon and Fields have shown enough to feel comfortable pencilling them in as “plus” guys.
Take all those elements and add in the stuff Carr showed Saturday and the dynamics get damn attractive as to what the defense has to do with their safeties. Can the defense get to merely be “Good” in order to slow you down (e.g., stop the run by bringing another hat into the box) or do you have the horses and cohesion to make the defense play perfectly in order to stop you?
Drop a safety down, and you are leaving one of Faison/Greathouse/Fields single-covered, with a QB that can and will get it to them quickly and accurately downfield. Keep them both high and you now have 6 defenders in the box against 6 blockers, so unless someone wins clean up front (or you’ve got a war daddy 2-gapper on the DL) you are giving Jeremiyah Love a lot of room to work with.
The dynamic answer from a defense would be to start the safeties deep but have them trigger downhill aggressively on the run to more or less get the best of both worlds. The risk assessment there comes down to how much you trust your corners and nickel to hold up for the 1-3 seconds it might take the safety to fully assess whether they’re seeing play action or a bona fide run play. Moreover, Love and Price have speed such that you really don’t want to risk your back line players being hasty with their angles as the come downhill.
Like I said, it’s tantalizing. If Carr is what he appears to be, ND should have a lot of success against 4 down teams.
Here’s the Catch, Though
Or, here are the catches:
- Not every team plays 4-down. 3-safety looks have come to be more and more en vogue and are generally the bane of young college QBs (just ask Gunnar Stockton/Conner Weigman/Drew Allar, et al.)
- This geometric advantage is not available to you in the red zone. Angles are compressed and the challenges become almost totally different.
For these reasons, I think it’s absolutely vital that Freeman & co. prevail on Steve Angeli to stick around. He’s a veteran. He kn0ws how to work well within the offense. Perhaps most importantly, he’s a big, strong athlete and can, in the red zone, put the QB inside run game on the table in a way that Minchey or Carr probably cannot.
So there you have it, my endorsement is for a Carr/Angeli battery. Especially early on in the season I’d look at having a red zone package for Angeli.
Other Random B/G Game Thoughts
- I hate to sound like I’m down on Minchey, because I’m not! He had some great throws in the B/G game, including a great toss on the move following an outside zone play fake. That said, the “sack” he took on 4th and 5 on his first series was brutally bad. He had his WR open and just didn’t rip it.
- The 2nd string WRs looked pretty lost. Saldate’s route on Carr’s interception was awful. There sure doesn’t look to be much of a drop off between Smith/Saldate (who have been in the program for 3 years) and Richardson/Buress/Bettis, who just got to campus.
- Total fashion fail for Chris Ash in his first appearance on the NBC cameras. Undershirt bleed through, not what we need out of that position.
- Our efforts at playing zone didn’t look terribly fluid. Lots of work to be done on carrying and handing off guys between the 2nd and 3rd levels
- That said, terrific signs vis a vis the defensive backfield with Hobbs and Talich flashing (among others). Hard to see ND needing to stop the run from two-high much when they have so many good cover guys.
Other stuff? What did everyone think?
Thanks, Mike! Fun review.
The talking heads over at II and elsewhere seem to fell that Minchey is a good “run option” QB, and it seems to me that Steve Angeli has often been easily tackled when under pressure. Plus I’ve never actually seen him run inside.
Don’t get me wrong, I think he is a terrific kid, a good QB, and I would hate to see him leave. But is he really better than Minchey for running?
I’d add Noise, that Angeli was thought by many to be the guy with the getting sacked issues, pre B/G game. Now it’s Minchey ? Maybe the #1 guy is figured out but, 2-3 not so much. If Angeli is told he’s not #1, he has to go, no ?
Will Angeli have his degree after the Spring semester? If so, I would agree that it’s unlikely he sticks around if he isn’t the #1 QB. If he doesn’t have a degree yet, I think his odds of being an NFL QB are so low that he should really work toward finishing off his ND degree.
I think the below discussion fostered by us has hit most of the main points on this crucial but really tough decision.
Pete Sampson made an interesting point that maybe Angeli even as a backup waits until the December portal before pulling out (unless Tennessee wants him) as most of the big $$$ with other schools is gone for now.
He had a pretty nice QB draw in the oregon state bowl game (also did a flip and fumbled it which we thankfully recovered) so he has moderate ability with his legs.
His yucky sacks come from a pretty rough “qb clock”. I love his willingness to look down field, but he’s on the extreme end of that; the sacks he takes have no preemptive responses from him because he has very low awareness of his own safety whilst in the pocket
A red zone package centered around Angeli would probably be my least-favorite thing this offense could do in 2025. I would, truly, rather have a red zone package centered around Tyler Buchner.
I agree Mikey. Angeli ahead of Minchey as a runner is not a take I’d agree with. I do think Angeli is a better athlete than given credit for. That said, Minchey is far quicker and more elusive. Neither has the power of Riley Leonard.
Yeah, I think we all got spoiled by Riley Leonard’s running power. Almost no QB can initiate contact and power through tackles the way he did. Trying to use Angeli that way, even for just 5 or 6 plays per game, seems like certain failure to me.
I think it’s Angeli and then Carr. I know it’s been limited but Angeli seems to do a good job in games of staying on time within the offense. It’s hitting the checkdowns, being on time to receivers and he throws a good enough deep ball that it won’t matter. It’s also easier to go from Angeli to Carr than it is to go from Carr to either Minchey/Angeli without pulling a BK special and shattering the confidence of everyone in the room.
I don’t really have a problem with any of the 3 winning it and think the offense will be good with all of them in there especially if Love is healthy and the o-line gets a push.
The green on gold look looked very sharp and I hope it becomes an official combo this season
Also unrelated but the Boise State game being on Peacock is kinda gross, if that thing has to exist it should go to the worst game on the home slate
For the football it was just fun to see the lads in action again but some of those CJ Carr throws across the hashes were very pretty particularly the sideline action to the TEs putting the ball where it was either them catching it or no one.
Madden faraimo dismissed kedren young on carr’s int.
That’s a high schooler merc’ing a 230lb college kid. Consider me jazzed. Our linebackers are going to ruin people’s days
Was in total agreement until the Angeli “big athlete” redzone plan. What? The roster says Minchey is only an inch shorter while actually being heavier than Angeli. Plus by all accounts KM is a much better runner.
How is no one talking about Anthony Rezac?
What does this even mean?
Perfect defense is when you stop the run from two-high.
It means you can stop the run without dropping a safety into the box, allowing you to focus your resources on defending against the pass
Exactly. A big predictor you can do before the snap is look where the safeties are relative to the line of scrimmage and the “box” (area that contains the linemen)
If you have 2 safeties both like 12 yards+ away, “2-high shell”, they are physically further away, and that gives you higher likelihood of an open gap in the run game.
Ex: jadarian prices TD run against TAMU, you can’t even see the safeties pre snap on the broadcast.
If there’s one safety in the middle of the field “1-high shell” then the other safety is somewhere closer to the ball, usually as an outside linebacker/rover type deal. Think a cover 3 zone or cover 1. This gives an extra body near the ball to help support the run game.
The nirvana state is to get the best of both worlds: keep your safeties further away to stop/limit the pass, while still being stout against the run. The NFL (and al golden) have shifted their approach to shut down the pass and CONTAIN the run, especially with modern offenses chasing big chunk plays throwing. When the buccaneers beat the chiefs in the super bowl, they kept their safeties high to stop mahomes, and conceded that they’d rally to the run.
If you have studs on your dline and LB who can consistently beat blockers or take 2 gaps in the run, then this is the sweet spot. You don’t NEED that extra safety near the ball. But this takes DUDES, think 2021 UGA or the like.
Going over the stats last year, ND was an elite defense, but definitely not elite in rush defense across the season. Golden knew teams wanted chunk plays and didn’t have the discipline to commit to 4 yards and cloud of dust running. So while they were like 30th or something nationally in rush yards allowed, they were top 3 (1?) Against the pass. I submit with healthy mills/cross, AND some actual first round linemen, they would have eclipsed into death star across the board. Fortunately the only game it really bit them was osu.
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