For the third consecutive year, Mike Brey’s Notre Dame Fighting Irish earned a double-bye in the ACC Tournament. Late Thursday night, for the third consecutive time, his team advanced to the semi-finals. This recent run of Irish success has been filled with stirring firsts, and Thursday was no exception. Brey hadn’t beat Tony Bennett, and the Irish hadn’t defeated the University of Virginia since the Reagan administration. That changed in Brooklyn, as Notre Dame topped Virginia 71-58 in the final quarterfinal of the evening.
It was a stirring, near wire-to-wire victory for the Irish. They continued their run of great play in Brooklyn and shook the Virginia/Bennett monkey off their backs. Virginia scored on the opening basket and led for 37 seconds until Rex Pflueger made an open three. From there, the Irish put together a master performance on both ends of the floor. The defense was fantastic, forcing Virginia in to 10 turnovers and 39% shooting from the floor. No one will confuse Virginia with an offensive juggernaut, but holding them to 26 in the first half and 58 overall continues an excellent trend for the Irish. Notre Dame played great defense in Louisville, and it continued Thursday.
Offensively, the balanced Irish attack finally found ways to unlock the vaunted pack-line defense. The Big Four all finished in double figures, and Notre Dame only committed 8 turnovers while notching 9 assists.
Overall, it was a great demonstration of scrappiness, grit and execution. The Irish were great on 50/50 balls, closed out hard on shooters, team-rebounded, and were crisper than the Caveliers for 40 minutes. It was a complete performance.
Numbers
From a four-factors perspective, it begins and ends with FG shooting and FG defense. Notre Dame shot 58% eFG despite not having a scorching night from behind the arc. The 5-17 performance from behind the arc is the worst the Irish have shot from three in the Barclay’s Center. The headline was holding Virginia to only 44% eFG. Notre Dame held a 14% to 17% edge in turnover percentage. Virginia had a slight edge on the offensive glass, collecting 35% of their misses to 27% for ND. Notre Dame had a distinct edge in FT rate, with a 54% FTA/FGA showing versus only 21% for Virginia. The only “troubling” thing was that the Irish only made 72% of their 25 FT attempts. We’re so spoiled when that’s a bad night.
This is a case of the numbers telling the story. Notre Dame was so much crisper on the offensive end than they’ve been in the previous meetings with Virginia. They drove the ball with purpose, moved themselves and the ball, and executed wonderfully. The 9 assists are evidence of that, as is the 21 personal fouls committed by Virginia.
Performances
Never underestimate the power of an eff-you performance. Bonzie Colson, and his NSFW language, played hard and set the tone all night. He finished with a team high 21 points on 6-14 shooting and 10 rebounds. He had 2 blocks and was the most assertive (and foul mouthed and chippy) player on the floor. He’s 6’5″ and an ACC double-double machine. Third place, my ass.
Who doesn’t love March V.J.? March V.J. is the best V.J. The smooth midrange jumper he made in the 2nd half to squelch ideas of a late Virginia run was masterful. He was a beast on the boards with 7 total to go with his 12 points on 5-9 shooting from the floor. Most impressively, V.J.’s defensive effort is visibly picking up. That’s leadership and it is a great way to see him closing out his illustrious career.
Speaking of wanting to write a great ending – Steve Vasturia is doing his best to end as he began: making critical plays. Whether it was coming up with a loose ball of defensive slide, he did it. When his team needed a bucket badly, he drove hard and found a way. Another wonderful performance with 12 and 5 with 5 assists from Onions.
I wonder if Farrell could be an All-American if we moved the Joyce Center to Brooklyn? Perhaps we could buy the naming rights from Jay-Z or something? Once again, Farrell was spectacular in Brooklyn. He was great with the ball, committing a single turnover and put up 14 key points, 4 assists, and 2 steals. Mostly, it was a remarkable floor general night from the Jersey junior.
We know Rex Pflueger is mostly asked to not screw up the Big Four, but he did far more than that Thursday. His defensive performance iced out Virgina’s London Perrentes. The perennial Irish killer was held to just 3 points on 1-9 shooting with 2 assists and 3 turnovers. That’s a win for Rex even before he decided to do a little highlight reel work:
Rex Pflueger with the SAUCE!
What a welcome to Brooklyn for Notre Dame in the #ACCTourney 🍀#MustSeeACC pic.twitter.com/U9mFkyW4jz
— ACC Digital Network (@theACCDN) March 10, 2017
From the bench, the Irish once again got solid performances from both T.J. Gibbs and Martinas Geben. Geben picked up 3 points 3 boards and a block. He set fantastic screens and gives the Irish another physical presence up front when it is called for. Gibbs was 2-3 from the floor with 4 points and 2 boards. He sure doesn’t seem like a freshman and has a wonderful sense of how to contribute. Matt Ryan and Autin Torres both saw the floor in the first half. Limited action for both felt about right. I know the running chat we had going with our 18s writers was relieved when the media TO came and Brey went back to the starters.
Big Picture
Thursday’s victory is satisfying on a number of levels. The Irish were the only better seed not favored by Vegas or the KenPom projections. In fact, Pomeroy only gave the Irish a 34% chance of winning. Not only was it important to get the Bennett monkey off the program’s back, but the win solidifies the Notre Dame’s place among ACC contenders. While most ACC and national media treat the Irish as a novelty, using 3 straight double-byes to make 3 straight semi-finals is a big accomplishment. Now the Irish can shake the mental lock Virginia had on them. More importantly, they can begin to eye a trip to another ACC Tournament final.
Florida State stands in Notre Dame’s way after they dispatched Virginia Tech in the earlier game. We here at 18s will have more on that match-up later today (or in the discussion here), but for now, let’s appreciate one of the most satisfying wins in this magical 3 year run.
Semifinals Preview – alstein
We’ll keep the preview stuff in the same post so we can keep the conversation in one place.
3 Notre Dame Fighting Irish vs. 2 Florida State Seminoles
Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
ESPN, 9pm (approx. – probably after 9:30)
Familiar foes at it again. FSU and Notre Dame have battled each other twice this season, splitting their season series with each picking up victories at home. In Tallahassee, the game was back-and-forth, but the Seminoles looked to have the game in hand in the game’s final minutes. The Irish mounted a furious late comeback but ultimately came up one shot short. In South Bend, the Irish blew out FSU, and the 12-point margin does not really do that performance justice.
Florida State was a great, and I mean top 5 in the country great, team at home this season, with wins over Notre Dame, Minnesota, Florida, Duke, and Louisville, among others. Away from home, they haven’t been quite as impressive, although probably not as bad as the conventional wisdom seems to state. Last night’s win over Virginia Tech was their first tournament-quality win away from home since Februrary 1st, however.
The Seminoles are led by the trio of Dwayne Bacon, Jonathan Isaac, and Xavier Rathan-Mayes, each of whom isaveraging over double-digits and liable to go off in any given game. A big part of Florida State’s success, however, is their depth, as head coach Leonard Hamilton routinely goes 12-deep in a game. There is a lot of size all over that roster, which presents a difficult challenge for most any lineup, especially one that runs as small as Notre Dame’s.
Keys to the Game
Ball security – Notre Dame had a season-high 18 turnovers in their trip to Tallahassee earlier this season when they needed to shoot over 70% from three just to stay in the game. They’ve shown in recent weeks that a repeat shooting performance like that isn’t going to happen again, so they must protect the ball better this time around. They did that in South Bend, as even with 13 turnovers, a few of those were just sloppiness late with the outcome already decided. The Irish have shown they can score against these guys twice, but the ball-control, efficiency-inside script seems like the more replicable one.
Hiding Farrell – When you play a team with this much length, it sometimes gets difficult to keep Matt Farrell from getting exposed defensively as the shortest guy out there. Even a guy like CJ Walker had some success against him off the bench. So who do you put him on? XRM? Mann? Do you perhaps go zone a bit more than usual to try to neutralize that factor? And can Farrell himself do enough to pressure the ball and stay with his man through screens? I don’t like to single out a guy, and I’m not going to doubt him putting together a strong game either, but the mismatch between him and most of Florida State’s lineup options stand out. Brey is likely going to have to throw a few different looks at the Noles.
Getting in the lane – Both of these teams can have a tendency to drift and settle for long-range shots, but each is at its best when they have ball-handlers going to the bucket and making things happen that way. You feel good about Farrell doing so with some PnR action with Bonzie. Can that duo have the same success (or even close to it) that they had when these teams met in South Bend? And can FSU commit to doing that with more than just isolated 1-on-1 plays? More guys going to the basket for them means easier shots and more offensive rebounding opportunities. Interesting to see how both teams approach this one and are able to execute consistently.
Final Take
Both teams should have a chip on their shoulder, as this game is clearly in the shadow of the bluebloods that will precede them tonight in Brooklyn. Both can play the “they don’t respect us” card, but neither can really say that about one another, just the ACC world. Still, these players need to summon some fire and energy after some of that gets taken out of the building when the Duke and UNC fans hit the exits before the late one tips off. FSU has a nice revenge factor after turning in one of their worst performance’s of the season in South Bend. We also saw Notre Dame’s chippiness and grit last night. But can they bring that same intensity again tonight?
I think this is a fascinating watch, even as most of college basketball nation turns their attention elsewhere before tip-off. I think these two teams that clearly want a shot to prove that they belong at the top of this crazy ACC pack and will show us all a lot of intensity, passion, effort, and maybe even some more chippiness. I’m not going to do a formal prediction, although I stand by my pick in the ACC Tournament preview post that ND will get through their semi as long as they could knock off Virginia. I’ll probably keep going back-and-forth about how I feel all day on this one. But more than anything, I think this is just going to be a great, high-scoring college basketball game. I can’t wait.
I’ll be the first to admit that last year’s success surprised me. To continue doing what they’re doing in the best basketball conference in the country is spectacular. I’m very impressed.
3 straight double-byes and 3 straight ACC semifinal visits. I think it’s an extreme long shot, but if the guys make it to another Elite 8, will Brey and the program finally get some national respect? When will the recruits start to notice?
I absolutely love that we’re dreaming big dreams for the Irish basketball program, but beware moving the goalposts on these guys. Admittance to the big dance is the goal every year. The fact that these guys are coasting in to that goal doesn’t make it any less of an accomplishment. More importantly, the post-season is a coin-flip. Get a bad matchup and go home as a bad upset. Get a good path and some hot shooting, and crazy stuff happens.
It is great to dream big dreams for this team, just don’t call them a disappointment if they don’t make it.
As far as recruiting goes, every national TV game that has Brey smiling and his guys playing a joyous style of play is good for that situation.
Not to mention Sean McDonough delivering a (justifiable) Brey-slurping soliloquy late in the game.
Oh yeah, I’m already considering this year a pretty large success. Sure, I’d be “disappointed” if we don’t win our first-round matchup, but that’s only in the sense that I know these guys can play with just about anyone. It’s all icing on the cake from here.
Unless, of course, the entire ACC turns out to be a disappointment.
We laid the smacketh down. It was beautiful.
I added some preview items for tonight’s game to the bottom of this post, just to keep the conversation in one place.
To be fair, before last night, ND’s last victory against a tourney team away from Purcell was January 14th. It’s hard to beat good teams on the road.
Passion is good, but from all appearances Bonzie’s antics were mostly unprovoked. Brushing the UVA bench and Bennett was silly, and then repeatedly shouting “GET THAT **** OUT” when he blocked Guy about 2 feet below the rim was also a bit much. With the amount of blocks Florida State is capable of getting, it may get thrown back in his face tonight.
Tonight is the night that Steve’s shots drop, he was so close last night. He did have some beautiful assists though. This also seems to be the game where you give Gibbs a bunch of minutes, he’s a firecracker on D and drove to the hoop well last night.
What did Shayok do to make Bennett so angry? The guy can play and was killing us that short stretch he was in the game.
I’m usually with you on all the smack talk, and greatly prefer how Vasturia goes about his work, but this is how Bonz fires himself up. You gotta take some of that with him. It is still 1000x better than the tripper, so I can live with it.
LMFTFY…
“It is still 1000000000x better than the tripper, so I can live with it.”
To be fair, I was screaming “Get that out of here” at the TV any time Guy’s man-bun came on the TV.
But yeah, I was actually pretty shocked he didn’t get a technical for that. He was right in Guy’s face when he did it.
That being said, what was up with the broadcasters going on and on about Bonzie running near Bennett, but then just brushing over the flagrant foul against Farrell (one possession after the same player grabbed Farrell after the play was already over)? Normally Doris seems to actually favor ND (see DJ’s biceps, Steve’s baby face, etc.), but she was so incredibly angry over Bonzie running next to Bennett.
Haha, I totally agree on this. I couldn’t believe how much McDonough was going off about that. “For such a classy program to have someone pull off a move like that…” It’s not like he even touched the guy! Plus the running down the sideline looking at the crowd is a signature Bonzie celebration. Sure, he chirped a bit, but the overreaction to that was absurd.
McDonough did have a gem in the UVA-Pitt game though. Guy got knocked on his backside on a drive and he promptly said “there’s 3 buns on the floor”. Doris lost it.
I think the announcers in that highlight video used the term “double pump” more than anyone since Brent and and his “celebrity” date at MSG.
1) I don’t think we played zone all night. Thank you Brey.
2) Steve attacked the rim. I’m not sure if it’s because his outside shot isn’t falling or because it was the game plan (VJ was hunting inside the arc too), but it’s good to see. Especially because he was finishing.
3) Gibbs continues to be great at getting to the rim. Great to see him finish some tough ones.
4) Who starts fouling with 3 minutes left? That was the most boring finish to one of the most satisfying wins of the year. I know UVA fans love Bennett (for good reason), but I would hate watching that team for a full season.
Oh? Did they find a new new post indicator? Or was i just seeing things?
1) Yesssssss
2) We had them in foul trouble. I’m positive Brey was in every media TO asking guys to play down hill. Bennett said after the game that it was the 2nd and 3rd drives after kick-outs that really got them out of shape and created open looks.
3) He’s gonna be sooooo good. I see so much Tory Jackson in his game.
4) I talked about that on the RakesReport pod. I say a little thank you that Brey was dropped in our lap, even after the MD fiasco. He puts a beautiful style on the court.
This FSU game is going to require a completely different style of play than last night. As alstein mentioned, FSU is a matchup nightmare for Farrell (although he was getting beat plenty last night and our help defense took care of things); will Brey go to zone to try to deal with that? Also, FSU’s length is unbelievable. We aren’t going to be able to drive all the way to the hoop. I hope VJ goes to his drive and pull-up from 10-15 feet move early and often. If Steve can get his 6-8 foot floater working too, that would be great. If Gibbs is going to attack the rim, he needs to be looking for contact, because I don’t think he’s going to be able to finish over those guys.
As for the Gibbs/Tory comparison, I have only one concern: Gibbs needs to tighten up his ball handling quite a bit. Tory could dribble into and out of trouble unlike any player I can remember for the Irish. Gibbs plays a lot like his brother did at Pitt; he’s so strong he tries to just plow through contact. That will work against most guys, but there are going to be teams who can easily take the ball away from him when he lets things get loose and his dribble gets high. I love his jump shot. I love his fearlessness. I love (for the most part) his defense. If he just focuses on tightening up the ball handling (and doesn’t make any of those lazy freshmen passes/turnovers we saw early in the year), he’s going to be the next in Brey’s impressive line of NBA PGs.
Tory was the best ball-handler of the Brey era. Loved watching him go to work, even as a freshman.
Yeah, with Wilkins under the weather, Virginia’s rim protection is 1/1,000th as athletic as FSU’s. It is a very different night off the bounce. If I’m Len Hamilton, I’m telling my guys to stay home on drives and let the ball defender recover and trouble the shot. If we beat them, it’ll be on a lot of clean drive-and-kick looks.
Knock some down early, and it’s human nature for players to start abandoning that game plan, even if Hamilton tells them to stay with it. Hopefully we can hit a couple early just like last night, just always seems to make the offense run better the rest of the way, even if shots aren’t falling at any crazy rate.
I thought the fouling strategy was clever – they were in the bonus but not the double bonus, so they used that to their max advantage (rather than risk a shooting foul taking up one of their bonus fouls). Rex bricked the front end of one of the one-and-ones, which was exactly what they were hoping for. For optimal strategy, they probably should have waited and seen if Rex got the ball early in the possession and just foul him then (rather than letting better FT shooters take it), but overall I don’t think it was a bad idea at least in theory – and I think would be a very good idea against a poorer FT shooting team.
Agree that it was strategically good, but aesthetically nasty.
If both teams played strategically correct by the numbers, the game gets even more aesthetically nasty.
According to this analysis, the LEADING team should also be fouling. The article was written for the NBA, but I can only imagine the fouling strategy should be even MORE aggressive in the college game where free throw shooters are worse and the 1-and-1 exists.
http://www.caam.rice.edu/~fhk2/basketballendgame.pdf
Oh god, please do not let anyone anywhere see this.
I actually really like their suggestion to curtail fouling late in games: if someone makes their first 2 free throws, give him a third. It would have to be implemented in intentional foul situations only, though, which is where it gets tricky.
Do it for every foul in the last three minutes or whenever the fouling team is over 15 fouls. This way you don’t have to worry about intentional fouls. If a team has committed 15, they are either so hopelessly far behind that they are not going to catch up and this might let the game end.
I definitely just skimmed right through it, but one thing that caught my eye was that he misspelled “Pomeroy” and “Naismith” on the References page (p9). Makes me inherently skeptical of anything else in the study.
You won’t believe this given that I ignored the math and focused on some unnecessary minutiae, but I’m a lawyer.
I want a runoff added in the last 3 minutes–the team that is fouled can choose to reduce the game clock by whatever was left on the shot clock when the foul was committed.
I still can’t get over how great our defense looked, particularly in the first 30 minutes. Virginia had so many long possessions where they couldn’t penetrate, and they ended up taking some deep 3’s just to beat the shot clock. I just kept thinking, “that’s how we used to look against them!” Very encouraging signs.
I don’t think this team has the consistency or ceiling of the 2014-15 team, but their defensive abilities make them interesting in a different way. While the Jerian/Connaughton team would just shred teams with offensive efficiency night in and night out, it does seem like this team can win through its defense, while also maintaining our characteristically elite offense. Some days this year we haven’t been able to shoot, or we haven’t had the energy defensively. Then you have a performance like yesterday’s, and we look like we can hang with anyone on both sides of the ball.
The wait til 8 tonight will be rough.
Those of us on the east coast are likely waiting until 9:30 (perhaps later if the ACC decides to let the Duke/UNC winner cut the nets then and there).
I feel like this team has been consistently better that the sum of its parts defensively. Pat was a better on-ball defender than VJ and Jerian was a more heralded athlete than Rex, but this whole team helps and moves really well. Bonzie and VJ don’t have great feet but use their reach really well. The whole thing is really impressive, and when they rebound as a team, they look really good on that end.
lol
“perhaps later if the ACC decides to let the Duke/UNC winner cut the nets then and there”
Couple of AM links for everyone. These are courtesy the ACC Digital Network (RayCom):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVXNk-K70qU — Note the number of “Wow’s” and missed first names in this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvwpkC3gNcg — Farrell highlight and interview. Ignore grammar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLFUOWgJIVA — Bo Farrell interview.
TODAY WE DID A BASKETBALL!!!
So locked in. Credit to Steve for never losing confidence in his shot. FTs not great, although pretty laughable that FSU had like 2 team fouls through 15 minutes.
Just beat Duke.