The latest edition of 5WF contemplates the lack of hype around the upcoming Olympics, why Alex Trebek is an absolute treasure, and Super Bowl prop bets.
1 The XXIII edition of the Winter Olympics kicks off in one week. Where are we with the far less popular Winter Games compared to its more famous Summer Games?
Not great, in my mind. The Winter offering has always been the little brother but I can’t remember a time when it’s been such a disparate comparison. I think it’s due to a couple factors.
First, the latest venues haven’t been all that great. The previous games in Sochi were perhaps the worst location, certainly in my lifetime. In fact, since I’ve been alive you could say the locations were all really solid for the most part until Sochi.
We’re also approaching East Asia overkill. The next Winter games will be in Beijing after hosting the Summer games there only in 2008. Nearly half of the Olympics in one region of the world feels odd, plus East Asia doesn’t really scream winter games to me. I couldn’t tell you a single thing about Lillehammer but Norway feels like a more fitting Olympics country for the winter. Perhaps that’s my European-centric bias, though.
I also think America in general is in a weird place with patriotism at the moment, if you know what I mean.
2 What can be done to make the Winter Olympics better?
It would seem the Winter games could benefit from rotating through a small list of host cities but the options are really difficult to sort through. Just about half the time you’re getting a venue far away from a large metro area and if you’re one of the people willing to travel in the cold this has to limit the attractiveness. Shouldn’t the games return to Vancouver every 20 years at least?
I’ve had an idea of Toronto and Buffalo co-hosting the Olympics but I’m not sure the skiing locations would be right. Lake Placid is 6 hours away from Western New York and that’s so close yet so far away.
The Winter Games also feature just 15 sports which lowers the odds of an athlete or team grabbing American or international attention. This 2018 Games feels especially light on known quantities among the athletes. We have to accept that many of the sports (biathlon, cross-country skiing, luge, etc.) just aren’t going to crossover into mainstream America, so it’s an even smaller pool of athletes.
I’ve got Lindsey Vonn and I’m not sure I could name another American heading to PyeonChang. I guess we have Shaun White still around?
Another issue is that the “new” sports like snowboarding and freestyle skiing really haven’t had the impact some thought they would when they were added. Even a sport like women’s hockey seemingly has taken a step backwards as the NWHL has been beset with financial problems and a merging with the CWHL isn’t in the cards yet. Ten to 15 years ago there were a handful of prominent women’s hockey players and now it’s not as strong.
3 Speaking of hockey, was it a mistake for the NHL to refuse to participate in the Olympics for 2018?
Yes, and no.
Taking a look at the United States roster it’s flat out depressing. We are sending a group of D and E-list players! It’s a bunch of cast-offs from all over the world which is sad and not at all what the spirit of the Olympics should be about. Unbelievably, the most prominent member of the team is 39-year old Brian Gionta who hasn’t even been playing professional hockey this year and signed a 1-game contract with the AHL’s Rochester Americans so he could “tune up” for the Olympics.
If it’s a choice between NHL talent and that, well, yeah give me the NHL talent.
However, using the NHL players is pretty absurd. Imagine if the Notre Dame football season stopped so players from all over the roster had to go play a couple games representing their home states. It’s ridiculous. The safest route for the future is to do something similar to men’s soccer and the Olympics: Impose an age-limit.
The level of play for hockey at the World Junior level is absurdly high. The soccer limit is 23 and under, while hockey could definitely get away with a 20 and under rule. All non-NHL players at this young of an age would inject a lot of fun into the Olympics. You’re not getting the absolute best in the world but you’re able to see some of the best young talent in the world.
4 Question: Is Alex Trebek one of the greatest living humans?
Trebek the real MVP pic.twitter.com/5XkDRGrIb0
— CBS Sports (@CBSSports) February 2, 2018
Without a doubt.
5 What are some of the best Super Bowl prop bets for Sunday’s big game?
Pink and the over (2 minutes) feels like a lock for the National Anthem. She’s originally from the Philadelphia area and will surely soak up every last second with the Eagles on the field.
It’s not s huge payout but Belichick wearing a blue shirt at kickoff is basically free money.
With the Patriots history you’d be foolish not to bet the under (9.5) for the total 1st quarter points. In fact, take the under for the whole game it’s sitting at 48 points.
Everyone should take the over for any and every Tom Brady passing stat. He’s averaging 50.25 passing attempts over the last 4 Super Bowls!
“We’re also approaching East Asia overkill. The next Winter games will be in Beijing after hosting the Summer games there only in 2008.”
DIdn’t even mention that 2020 is in Tokyo, as well. 3 Asian hosts in a row. Seemingly making up for the fact that prior to 1998, there were only 3 games held outside of Europe/North America.
Yup, can’t really blame them but I will anyway.
After the war, I think it would be a nice peace gesture to have one in Eurasia. Just becasuse they’re our allies, Eastasia seems to be getting all the games right now.
Seems odd, especially since Eurasia’s our ally, why would so many games be going to Eastasia, our enemy?
Yeah. The ones really getting screwed are the Africans and Antarctica. Maybe they should schedule one on Mt. Kilimanjaro or nothing like skiing Mt. Vinson. Or even bobsledding into the heart of Santiago, Chili.
The hockey issue is a complicated one. I could drone on for a while, it’s basically a tug of war between the NHL owners and the IOC/IIHF. Both pretty greedy entities. The NHL owners don’t see the benefit in allowing their players (some of whom they’ve guaranteed $50+ million to in future earnings) to play and make money for the Olympics. And risk injury that could affect their own franchise value – there’s insurance on the wages but a key player for the NY Islanders was out for the season last time in a costly. It also doesn’t help their business that a lot of the games are like 7-8 AM Eastern time starts in this Olympics, probably correct there. NHL players in weird times doesn’t directly help the NHL.
Also the owners know the players absolutely love Olympics and it’s a bargaining chip in the CBA. If the players want it, it’s probably going to cost them, literally, a % of their revenue split or some other negotiation point for the owners. Smart but cruel.
The Russian team’s involvement this year is also a sham and a farce, especially since 3 players were recently disqualified for failing. They’ll probably win, but they’re definitely suspected of systematic cheating, per usual with them.
I love the winter olympics. I think short track speed skating is the single most entertaining olympic event. The Hermann Maier crash in Nagano is probably the best skiing wipeout of all time. I am still amazed every time I see him stand up after it (I watch the clip every winter to get pumped for skiing).
I think a big problem with winter olympic popularity in the US is that we just aren’t any good. The events themselves are so much more fun to watch than the summer (think about how boring it is to watch people swim or jog), but who wants to tune in to watch us lose to Canada and a bunch of European countries (besides myself).
The summer and winter olympics are so different in their essence. Summer is so much more about who is the greatest physical specimen, when winter is more about who has best mastered a difficult skill.
I find swimming very not boring but I get your point overall.
Do you find non-olympic swimming not boring? I love watching olympic swimming, but it’s because the US always has someone legitimately competing for gold. I could never watch a race where I didn’t care who won.
Not sure I’ve ever watched non-Olympic swimming.
I know I’ve never watched Olympic jogging.
Im with you on the “I love the Winter Games” aspect. I almost cant stand the majority of the summer games because I find them mind blowingly boring. How many times can you watch a guy run? Seriously. The winter games are so much more varied than their summer counterpart and that’s why I love it.
Sure, Downhill, Super G, Slalom are all ski racing which compares to the summer 100m, 200m, 300 meter but at least skiing kind of stops there. There’s not a 1000, 1200, 1500, relay, marathon etc etc etc. Same with swimming. You have 100m breaststroke, 100m backstroke, 100m freestyle, 100m 100m Butterfly. Then you have 200m for everything then 500m everything. It’s the same thing repeated ad nauseum.
I’m gonna go ahead and disagree with the logic that the Winter is less popular because “we’re not good.” That argument is just wrong on just about every level. Last Olympics, the US finished second in overall medal count, in the history of the games we’re only just barely in second overall there too. Sure, we maybe dont own every event but we’re massively competitive. I think the real reason the winter games is less popular is because the majority of the sports are “rich white people” sports. You dont see inner city kids putting on boots and hitting the slopes every afternoon after school, they’re shooting hoops in the park. There aren’t low-income families signing their kids up for Hockey or figure skating lessons. So with little to no personal experience, it’s hard to encourage these people to want to watch the “pros” do it. For me, I grew up skiing once a month and competed in downhill so I love watching all of those events. I play and love hockey and have a son that is serious into it so we are fans of Team USA there too. But if I didnt have those experiences, I dont know if I’d watch that closely or not.
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I’m sorry to be such a wet blanket, but other than the 1980 “Miracle on Ice”, I haven’t been interested in the Olympics, winter or summer, since 1972 (which is when I decided they were more political than athletic and stopped watching). Plus, I really don’t care for many of the sports (come on, you watch the ski jumping like you watch auto racing, hoping for a wipeout).
Besides, I’ve grown to hate that damn Olympic theme music. Give me ESPN’s or NBC’s NHL theme music anytime.
I find the new sports like aerial skiing, snowboard x races and snowboard pipe and jumping are really athletic and exciting events.
Glad you put the women’s hockey in there too. The expected US/Canada gold medal game will/should be the most fun and suspenseful game there. Both teams are very good and fun to watch, I definitely recommend it to all.
Not sure why you feel they don’t have the individual stars. Hilary Knight has been pushed pretty far with commercials and magazine covers, and was at the nhl all star game last week. As was Amanda Kessel. Knight did the shooting accuracy competition as an exhibition but her time would have placed her third out of 7 or 8 of the NHL all stars. The women these days are very good! Obviously they don’t have a ton of recognition or a high Q rating but did Hayley Wickenheiser or Angela Ruggiero have it either except among diehard Olympic/hockey fans? Hopefully maybe after the games Knight is more of a star, she could well be the player of the tournament.
When you pull into Lake placid the first thing you see is the Ski Jump. The first thing you think is “no suh”, the 2nd “they must be nuts”.
I’ve not done real ski jump but I have done a “Big Air” jump on skis. I might be willing to try if I had the actual wide ski jump skis they use
You might want to have a parachute too. 🙂
Purest winter Olympic ‘sport’ event is the biathlon. To be able bring your body from full bore to dead stop, rinse and repeat, is amazing.
Also I scoff at any event that needs judges to tell me how good I am. Even curling is more objective than figure skating.