Happy Easter to everyone!
My biggest gripe with the $400 million Crossroads project was that it didn’t carve out a space for a Notre Dame football Hall of Fame. There are some artifacts scattered throughout the concourse of Notre Dame Stadium, inside the Gug practice facility, and of course Heritage Hall in the Joyce Center is packed with lots of athletic history for Irish athletic teams, including football.
Still, there’s nothing on campus that does justice to the long history of Notre Dame football.
You’ve probably read many lists of the greatest players in Notre Dame history. What I am embarking on is a Bill Simmons-inspired hall of fame pyramid for Fighting Irish football. The layout is simple: There are 5 levels to the pyramid, and the higher you rise in the pyramid the more prestigious and limited each floor becomes. Also, if someone new makes the pyramid a player has to drop out of a level and/or out of the pyramid entirely. So, we can revisit this in the future when appropriate.
For this initial Notre Dame Hall of Fame Pyramid it’s important to get the size appropriate. If it’s too small we’re just going to be rearranging the true greats and that’s not much fun unless you have hot takes about Joe Montana. But it does have to be large enough so as to include players who have at least garnered some All-American consideration throughout their careers–which makes up a vast majority of the pyramid.
The 18 Stripes Notre Dame Hall of Fame Pyramid will feature 185 players overall.
Level 1 – Dan Devine Floor (55 players)
Level 2 – Lou Holtz Floor (54 players)
Level 3 – Frank Leahy Floor (49 players)
Level 4 – Ara Parseghian Floor (17 players)
Level 5 – Knute Rockne Floor (10 players)
This may seem like a lot of players, too many even. But keep in mind Notre Dame has 47 players in the College Football Hall of Fame alone. A full 17 players have received consensus All-American honors in multiple seasons, 87 players total with consensus All-American honors at least once. Thirty have received unanimous All-American selection. Thirty-five have received Heisman votes in at least one season. Some players received All-American honors of some kind and didn’t make the Hall of Fame Pyramid.
Naturally, our list will skew a little bit in favor of modern players if not in inclusion then at least there will be some bias in the rankings. It’s pretty difficult to judge how great someone like Nordy Hoffman (1 All-American season yet in the College Football Hall of Fame) was as an offensive lineman in 1931 compared to a modern-day receiver like Rhema McKnight who most of us remember watching and can go look back at his highlights.
No currently active players are in the Pyramid, although some will surely be making a case very soon. For the guys approaching the end of their careers for the Irish there are 2 ready to enter if they continue on their path:
QB Ian Book – Let’s say we average out his numbers from last year for a full season and the Irish go 10-3 in 2019. He’d be right around 6,880 career passing yards (4th all-time), his 2019 could surpass Clausen’s 2009 for the 2nd most passing yards in a season, Book would finish with 50 passing touchdowns to 21 career picks, while rushing for 890 yards and 10 more scores. All that with a 19-4 overall record (would be the 7th best winning percentage in school history) as a starter probably makes him a lock for the Pyramid.
DE Julian Okwara – This one could be close. Something approaching 10 sacks in his final year would give him a strong case but maybe not a lock for inclusion. As I mentioned in the Blue-Gold Game recap he’s shaping up to challenge Justin Tuck’s school records in multiple sack departments so it’s fair to say he’s trending in the right direction and likely to make it more than not.
There are 4 more worth mentioning. Each of Khalid Kareem, Troy Pride, Alohi Gilman, and Chase Claypool could make it although for most of them there’d probably need to be some All-American honors for 2019.
Lastly, please remember we are not including any professional highlights are basing anything off what players did in the NFL. This is strictly about a resume while at Notre Dame.
Soon we will begin to explore the Dan Devine floor on the first level.
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— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) April 12, 2019
55 players from Devine’s 6 years and 17 from Ara’s 11. Hmmm … that seems a little out of whack.
Oh, the pyramid floors are like the stadium gates they are just named for the championship winning coaches. They don’t contain only players from those coaches.
Ok…I get it now.
Are the tiers themselves in play? Can Devine get pushed out and his tier renamed with a future HoF coach?
Hmmm, I would think they have to be.
Or you could add another floor later on. Unless you are going to limit the number of players in the pyramid to 185 into the future?
For the sake of our internet community and good ol’ debate I’m going to keep it at 185.
Yeah I think 185+ would lower the bar too much. Maybe in the hypothetical future if there’s reason to add another level (another title) there would be reason to add more players, but I’m sure no one is going to get too far ahead of ourselves right now.
So you could be in the pyramid now and out in a couple seasons ?
Correct!
That’s like being an Egyptian tomb robber. Bad things happened to those guys….. be careful.
This is a great idea and a fun way to kill time in the real offseason.
Just an idea but there should be a reverse half of fame of sorts as well. It can go in the visitors bathroom or something. But the worst coaches and worst performances.
So a Charlie Weis Tier, a willingham Tier, Faust tier and Davie tier (there’s probably other coaches I don’t know of)
You could lump in the Malik Zaire 2016 season, the Andrew Hendrix usc 2013 game. The question is would Brian van gorder be the namesake of a tier or the sole owner of every performance in a certain tier?
Yes, as far as my opinion.
The pyramid of sadness.
With tiers of tears.
Well done.
I bet you loved Eric’s “worst losses” series.
Didn’t everyone????
From the way the tiers are set up, it seems that the greatest coaches correspond to the highest tiers. If that is the case, I think Leahy should be on the 4th tier. Also, I have a hard time seeing Okwara as worthy of entering the Hall unless he REALLY steps up his production. Book needs to be much better this year also. Last year, I think Dexter, Mustiphir, Love, Coney, Tranquill, Gilman, Kareem and Tillery all had a better body of work than those 2 but last year’s team was vey good.
I’m partial to Ara just because he stepped into a much tougher situation and always represented the school so well. Leahy was better at winning but had quite a bit more roster help.
I think I made the case why Book and Okwara are on pace to enter the Hall. But, are you sleeping on Okwara?
Tied for 7th most sacks in a single-season for ND. Everyone above him on that list is in the Hall. Per Pro Football Focus, he led the nation in 3rd down pressures. Okwara had 21 QB hurries last year! If he at least replicates last year he’d be the only player in school history with 8 sacks in 2 separate years.
Of the guys no longer active: Love, Coney, Tranquill, and Tillery are all in the pyramid.
Mustipher – Thought he fell short by a bit. One good season (2017) in between 2 okay seasons. There were some other modern players who were in the discussion ahead of him and didn’t make it.
Dexter – Just not enough body of work, only 1,636 career rushing yards. Only 9 games as the starter. The best thing he had in his favor was 2018’s 9 games places him for the 5th best rushing average per game in school history and overall he has the 3rd best rushing average for a career. But it’s a small sample size.
I agree with all that. Dexter is definitely one of the best athletes but for his career he was suspended a couple times, reportedly didn’t master the playbook, had blocking issues. He was a great player who put it together for an awesome 9 game stretch but overall career body of work is still a lot more “meh” than going to be fondly remembered for quantity.
I also agree on Okwara likely earning a place by next year. Kelly said they counted 27 could-have-been sacks last year. 27!!! IMO he’s likely to get 15+ in his senior season and leave no doubts as one of the best pass rushers in school history.
Maybe like most HOF’s there should be a waiting period.
We can give it a few months.
🙂
Can I nominate Derrick Mayes? 1994 is basically the first football season I have memory of and as a kid I was convinced Derrick Mayes was the best wide receiver who ever lived.
I’ll be interested to see how players like Leon Hart (the only ND player to win a NC, Heisman, and first overall in the NFL draft) and Johnny Lujack (QB for a NC and Heisman winner) stack up against the all time greatest stat compiler in ND history and only ever Notre Dame grad/EAS Myoplex spokesperson Brady Quinn.
Derrick Mayes……………………..
……..is in the Pyramid!
As he should….you mentioned McKnight, please tell me NO.
Please make the case for Rhema not to be in the Hall.
Whoops…I didn’t realize he ranked so high in career statistics. Not a guy I think of when I think of great ND receivers. That might be due to the other ND receivers that played in the same decade.(Floyd, Tate, Samardzija, Stovall) Even his best year he was only the 2nd best receiver on the team. His stats definitely get him in though.
I was gonna say, he was receiver 1 for 2 teams and receiver 1B on another. Sneaky good career.
Very sneaky.
I laughed out loud. 1994 is the first time I really watched games with my dad and I too believed Derrick Mayes was a receiver to save mankind.
So by saying you’ve paid no heed to professional accomplishments your way of hinting Montana isn’t in the pyramid?
He’s in for sure. Definitely has the merits. But he’s not in the top 10 ever like some lists out there.