The 48 hours between Notre Dame capping its fall camp with its annual jersey scrimmage – won by the defense – and the announcement of the Week 1 starting quarterback were filled with speculation, concern and arguments. Irish fans got their answer this afternoon when the social media team released a simple post:
Our starting QB#GoIrish☘️ pic.twitter.com/vFi9pxeMeg
— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) August 19, 2025
Luckily, no one is going to argue anymore, right?
I don’t think any Notre Dame coach would argue with the supposition that this competition did not play out ideally for the staff and fan base. You always want someone to seize the job with authority and leave no doubt he is the guy, and that clearly did not happen here. If it had, a decision would’ve been made before fall camp ended.
By all accounts, neither Carr nor QB2 Kenny Minchey set the world on fire. Now, it needs to be said that both were going against a defense that’s likely better than any they’ll face in a regular-season game this year, so that’s not, in and of itself, a reason for concern.
None of us really know how the competition played out, but the tea leaves suggest Minchey was making fewer mistakes, while Carr was showing more aggressiveness and accuracy. If that’s accurate, it might be a point of interest that the coaches landed on the (theoretically) higher-variance option.

The optimist view
It’s the off-season, so we’re all optimists, right? So let’s examine this decision from as positive a perspective as we can.
First, and maybe most importantly to the season, Notre Dame may not need Carr to be great to get past these first two games against Miami and Texas A&M. Remember, the Irish were able to get past A&M on the road to open last season without Riley Leonard doing a lot. ND’s defense, by every account, is tracking to be really, really good again in 2025, and Miami’s defense was quite bad last year (it was the main reason they didn’t make the playoff). There should be openings for him, and even if there’s not, a conservative offensive game plan may be good enough to win at Hard Rock Stadium. The 2nd game is at home, with all the accompanying advantages.
Carr also enters the season with big-time pedigree. He was the highest-ranked Notre Dame signee at the position since Brandon Wimbush in 2015.
Let’s not forget, also, that Carr has as enviable a group of players around him on offense as the Irish have seen in many a year. The running back group, even without the injured Kedren Young, is stacked to the gills with capable players (Jeremiyah Love, Jadarian Price, Aneyas Williams, Gi’Bran Payne and rapidly ascending freshman Nolan James) and the offensive line appears to be excellent. The buzz is good on the receivers, from Jaden Greathouse to Will Pauling. Pauling so impressed his new teammates with his dogged work ethic that he’s known as the “Gug Rat” and was voted captain – a remarkable feat for a transfer non-QB.
And if the Irish secure wins in those first two games, things lighten up (somewhat) from there, creating potential opportunities to get Carr more low-stress work if the Irish play well enough to grab some double-digit leads. If all goes well, there will be ample opportunity to develop Carr over the course of the year so that the version of him we see in December and (hopefully) beyond is far better than the one currently throwing the helmet on.
The pessimist view
Alright, we sort of have to dig into the other side, right?
As I noted above, the way this played out was, barring injury, probably about as unfortunate as you could’ve had. Carr was the presumed favorite all along, but over time Minchey began building more and more buzz, to the point that most program observers expected him to ultimately be named the starter. Then, all of a sudden, there CJ is in a Tweet.
Now, to be clear, I am in Trust the Staff mode. I flipped out over a (admittedly pretty horrible) bad moment last September and I’m not going to make that mistake again. I do not believe this is some sort of mismanaged issue a la DeShone Kizer vs. Malik Zaire, or even Dayne Crist vs. Tommy Rees. As many in our writers’ room will point out, if making a close call of Carr over Minchey in what was by every account a close battle creates tangible problems in the locker room, then the culture Freeman’s built isn’t what we think it is anyway.
That said, you can squint and see potential issues. Minchey is a good quarterback, and a confident one – he’s on record saying he believes he’s the best in the country. He has been here longer than Carr, and surely must have friends on the team. (Jeremiyah Love raised a couple of eyebrows when he posted Instagram videos of himself playing EA Sports College Football 26 with Minchey at quarterback, which he’d have had to change himself as Carr is the default starter in the game.) It’ll be down to him, ultimately, to handle being named QB2 in a team-first way to ensure there are no issues. We’ve heard nothing about him to suggest he will do otherwise.
Ultimately, I don’t think this becomes a problem unless Carr stinks it up in Miami, which is always a possibility. I probably don’t have to remind you what happened the last time the two teams played.
A couple of bad interceptions in the opener, and we’re doing this whole dance again. You really don’t want to have to be bouncing between the two quarterbacks. Carr needs to come out confident and unafraid, which won’t be the simplest thing to do amid the Canes’ planned Orange Out.
This isn’t a request.
This is a challenge.
On August 31st, we Orange Out Hard Rock Stadium.
Be loud. Be relentless. Be the difference maker.
Tickets: https://t.co/mRk2My8KCG pic.twitter.com/gDdqvaGW9P
— Miami Hurricanes Football (@CanesFootball) August 17, 2025
Carr is considered a confident player himself, so I don’t anticipate any kind of disaster, but at the same time, you never know for sure until somebody proves it.
If you want a silver lining to this bad timeline, we now know Kenny Minchey shouldn’t be a big step down from Carr if circumstances force him into the game. And whether Carr is good or not, it seems very likely Minchey will be needed at some point or another in 2025. Especially with an expanded playoff, there are too many games to assume Carr will never get dinged up.
Trust the Staff
I can’t tell anyone how to think, but remember, this coaching staff navigated all sorts of stuff – bad luck, poor play, injuries, etc. – and played for a national championship last year, winning 3 big postseason games along the way.
We don’t know yet why they landed on Carr. I’m sure we’ll get some answers when Freeman has his Miami preview press conference in a few days’ time. But they’ve made enough good decisions in the last few years – and are basically batting 1.000 in the last 11 months – that I’m riding with them. It may not have played out exactly as we anticipated when he committed, but CJ Carr as 2025 quarterback has felt like the outcome for a while now, and now we’re here. Go Irish.
Nicely put, Andy — merci! Yeah, big challenge for Kenny Minchey. Need him to stay positive and focused.
With the strong OL and RBs as you pointed out, seems like either QB could be effectively game planned to their (at least what I’ve seen reported) strengths. Minchey’s better read-option and running ability and conservative passing would be similar to the 2024s grinding offense. Carr’s superior deep ball could be very effective against heavy boxes leading to explosives.
I’ve realized how much I’m going to have to mentally prepare for a pocket passer again. It’s been a while!
Ideally, more explosiveness but also more frustrating drives when we can’t convert 3rd and 3.
Yeah, I’m really intrigued to see how the O Line holds up this year with a pocket passer. Riley Leonard could paper over so many O Line mistakes, plus the defense had to pause a split second on read options to account for him. It’s possible (but I hope unlikely) that he made last year’s line look a lot better than they really were.
Let’s not over-do the pocket passer motif. Neither of these guys is a Riley Leonard to be sure, but Carr actually scrambled more in high school than Minchey, so (1) don’t think he’s going to be a total statue and (2) Minchey might have grown into being more mobile than Carr over time, but if that is the case we have little evidence to know by how much. I suspect the differences between them is greater in their throwing styles than in their ability/willingness to run.
I wasn’t saying anything about Minchey. I’m more highlighting how long we’ve relied on dual threat skill sets.
One year? Because Hartman wasn’t a runner. Nor was Pyne who mostly played in 2022. Coan was legitimately statuesque in 2021. The running ability thing has become something of a meme for our fanbase and I don’t get it.
Okay, how “often” might be a better word than how “long.” I pulled numbers.
In the past 15 years, dual threat qbs got 49% of the starts (Leonard, Buchner, Book, Wimbush, Zaire, Golson). However Pyne only got 10 starts after Buchner’s injury and Rees clearly got more starts than planned due to Wimbush’s suspension and then transfer.
It is fair to note CMF has typically picked pocket passers while BK clearly preferred dual threats.
Sure; I wasn’t implying that Minchey is some sort of runner and Carr is a statue. More stating that I’ve been thinking of this O Line group as a sure-thing, top of the country, elite O Line, and perhaps I had forgotten how much Leonard helped amplify their abilities last year.
Fair. I wasn’t replying specifically to you as much as a general response to the conversation.
Kenny is certainly talented enough that I think he could have won us some games (not just game-manager “don’t mess up what the rest of the team has achieved”, but actually been the difference in winning games at times). However, if it’s true that CJ has the higher ceiling, then he seems to better align with pursuing a National Championship.
Even if CJ is the higher variance player I’d “happily” lose a game in the first month of the season to roll into the championship game with a player who has developed the ability to be the best player on the field even against the best teams, rather than one who is really good but not spectacular.
In short, in the theoretical where there are two QBs, one of whom is higher variance than the other such that the season outcomes were something like this:
High Variance QB
30% Misses the playoff
45% Playoff exit
25% Wins Natty
Low Variance QB
10% Misses the playoff
85% Playoff exit
5% Wins Natty
I’ll take the high variance guy every time.
Maybe this is just a long winded way to say, I’m glad Freeman and company seem to have made the aggressive choice. Go for it on 4th down and give me the higher ceiling QB!
Regarding Minchey. I’m very glad he has already red-shirted, so there is no chance he pulls a Mickey and sits out the season to retain eligibility before transferring, as he will certainly be needed at some point. Also, if we do make the playoffs, hopefully he sees how sticking around until the spring transfer window worked out well for Angeli.
I’m curious to see if schools start trying to line up NIL money for backups for the playoffs. If Carr locks down the starting job but misses a game mid-year, and Minchey lights things up in that spot start, schools are going to come knocking (yes, I know they aren’t technically allowed to). Perhaps some additional NIL money could convince a guy to stick it out until the Spring window if a team is in the playoffs.
On the short yardage plays with Carr vs. with Leonard. Does Carr give the offense more options in those situations even if sacrificing short yardage power? Are we more likely to see play action with a short pass or even a downfield throw? Does that keep an extra guy out of the box? Carr is not Coan or Rees, he moves much better in and out of the pocket, so some designed pass or run plays are an option. I think Carr has a better WR group than Leonard.
I think so much of Carr’s success will depend on the Oline’s cohesion early. Like any QB the better they pass protect and run block, the greater chance for QB success. If Carr is under duress the first two games his messing up odds increase greatly… FB 101.
Nice set of questions, Massachusetts! Yeah — as is very often the case, so much will depend on the offensive line’s ability to grow/develop their cohesion, to use your word. When MF talks O-line driven, he’s into that for the total game aspect.
And I am not yet convinced about our line. I surely want to be. But that Miami heat will be a true test of how well our physical prep has been.
Beating cramping and dehydration starts days before. I think MF and Landow will do all things possible. They were the better team late vs. A&M last year, I think they can do the same.
The extra humidity is the challenge, but, yeah, we do have a good record of paying lots of high end attention to this kind of challenge. We’ll see!