Remember that excellent 2018 Notre Dame team, and that pretty darn good 2019 team? Now remember the problems they had with Virginia Tech?
You’re about to.
Notre Dame (-1) at Virginia Tech
Lane Stadium
Blacksburg, VA
Date: Saturday, October 9nd, 2021
Time: 7:30 PM ET
TV: ACCN
Justin Fuente took over from the Frank Beamer in 2016 and started 10-4. Don’t ask whether we played Tech that year. In 2017 he went 9-4. In 2018, 6-7. In 2019, 8-5. In 2020, 5-6 and the AD had to come out and explicitly say Fuentes would return. In the 2018 and the 2020 seasons, Tech started strong and the suffered late season streaks of multiple losses. Thus, despite their good start this year, Tech fans seem to have a “wait and see” attitude to the season and Fuentes’ future.
Virginia Tech opened the season by knocking off a (then) top 10 UNC team at home. They won their next game against Middle Tennessee 35-14, then had a “not as close as the score looks” 21-27 loss at WVU. They defeated Richmond 21-10 the next next week.
Virginia Tech is coming off a bye and the even Vegas giving ND a one point edge perhaps overstates their advantage, as on Monday myBookie was charging an ND bet at -105 but a Tech bet at -115. That’s now leveled out to -110 on each side of -1.
Side by Side:
Statistic | Virginia Tech | Notre Dame |
247 Composite Team Talent Ranking | 39 | 12 |
SP+ Returning Production | 72% | 55% |
SP+ Ranking | 33 | 20 |
FPI Ranking | 40 | 18 |
FEI Ranking | 36 | 13 |
Virginia Tech’s Offense
The Hokies have, if not an overwhelming, then at least a well balanced rushing attack this year: juniors Jalen Holston with 159 yards (4.3 ypc) and Rasheam Blackshear with 144 (3.8 ypc). This is achieved mostly by edge runs; the Tech line cannot open holes in the interior and backs consistently get pushed to the outside. The Hokies 3rd leading rusher is QB Braxton Burmeister, with 140 yards. The guy can run, especially when you consider he was sacked six times by West Virginia and had many “carries” for few yards in that game. He’s also a solid passer – 101 attempts for 746 yards, 5 TDs and 1 INT. On slants, screens, and any throw within 20 yards, he looks accurate and can deliver into a tight window.
And yet, Tech’s offense has not, so far this season, looked that good. They have scored 35 against MTSU but not broken 21 in their other 3 games. Part of the problem, as mentioned above, is their lack of an interior running game. Another flaw appears to be related to their inability to stretch the field. In a discussion between Pete Sampson and Andy Bitter on the Athletic, Andy – the Tech beat reporter – noted that the Hokies have 13 pass plays that have gone for 20 or more yards. This is 87th nationally and if you look at 30 or 40+ yard plays, the problem gets worse. I do think Tech will have a slightly better performance against ND. They also got inside the 5 yard line thrice against WVU and came away with zero points. There’s no reason to expect ND will experience the continuation of such good luck. More importantly, I think the bye before facing ND will allow them to clean up some mistakes – it’s early enough in the year that teams can make great strides week to week, which is what Cincinnati did when you compare their post bye game (ND) to their pre-bye game (Indiana).
Make no mistake, though – this matchup very much favors ND’s defense (ranked 17th in SP+) over the Tech offense (37th). When a QB has trouble with downfield passes, press coverage should do just fine, particularly when bringing pressure. Tech had a lot of trouble with WVU’s line. I expect ND to do at least as well as WVU on pressuring Burmeister, though I expect us to have less sacks. WVU had 6, and although ND has a talent advantage, WVU’s offensive success meant Tech was playing from behind almost the entire game. But Burmeister had 16 “carries” for 11 yards. I think that bottom line is something ND can replicate.
Virginia Tech’s Defense
Part of what makes this preview difficult for me is that – for both teams – I’m not convinced their 2020 performance is indicative of what we’ll see this year. In the case of Tech, they hired a new DC (with a new system) prior to 2020. Because of covid’s massive preseason disruption, they couldn’t install much of a system and ran one front all year. This year, they’ve shown more versatility and are customizing their approach to the opponent. To me, it looks like they mostly run a four man line and I see what looks like a lot of nickel, but I’ve only watched their games against UNC and WVU. They’ve recorded 13 sacks on the year. The two team leaders are LB Dax Hollifield and DL TyJuan Garbutt (quality name) with three apiece.
It doesn’t feel this way, but statistically, ND’s offensive line did improve last week and I believe we’ll still see some further improvement in the season – although the line is too young to be powerful, I’m still seeing lots of utterly missed blocks where our linemen stand around no one. That should only get better – though “should get better” has set up ND fans for a lot of disappointment in my lifetime. In any event, this week is an opportunity for another incremental improvement in the run game: WVU’s top backs averaged about 7.5 yards per carry. We probably won’t get there – WVU is generally competent on offense – but Richmond averaged 4.4 yards a carry against Tech, lead backs averaging 4.8. Even UNC – whose offensive line tech absolutely whipped while abusing QB Sam Howell – still averaged 4.9 yards a carry, with the lead backs averaging about 7 yards a carry.
Prediction
This is tough. As mentioned above, I don’t think 2020 tells us much about Tech. We also haven’t seen much from Tech this year. They had an imperfect but still brilliant opening against UNC, got beaten convincingly by WVU, and took care of business without impressing against their weaker opponents.
I don’t think Tech is a monstrously good team but right now, ND is absolutely limp on offense. Given how visibly Michael Mayer was hobbled at Cincinnati, I think his impact will be limited. That leaves us without a key weapon / crutch for our QB. Speaking of QB, the scuttlebutt is that ND’s QB indecision continues – Pyne was planned to be the starter but then had a pretty bad practice on Wednesday in which he repeatedly missed on important reads. Now, it looks like the staff has an ever so slight lean to Coan, though no one is really sure.
This is not a recipe for success when you have ND’s abysmal running attack. And the passing game might not be as “good” as normal; the weather forecast – depending on where you look – gives a 40-60% chance of rain. “Rain” does not imply a 2016 NC State hurricane game where running the ball was the only feasible option. But when you think of a QB controversy with one side of the ball being an utter disaster and visiting a competent opponent on the road in the rain… what do *you* think of?
If we had Tech at home on a sunny day, I think our better athletes pull this off. But we have them on the road on a probably rainy evening. Bring on the gloom.
If this was a home game, I’d predict a big bounce back from last week. Va Tech is a difficult place to play though.
I think ND barely wins, on the strength of a big redemption game (I’m sensing a pattern) from K. Austin and the defense. I don’t think the Hokies can execute on offense like the Bearcats did.
ND 20 — Va. Tech 16
Tea leaves are saying Coan took most the 1st team reps. Yuck. Could be a long day with lots of sacks and punts for Notre Dame again.
This Tech team is only OK though, I think the ND defense will provide a reasonable enough effort for what could/should be a win, if the offense holds up their end of the bargain. Really makes no sense though why they think Coan can be effective when he’s been so poor at running the offense the last four games.
We’ll see what happens with Coan, but here’s what I don’t get — we’re not building toward anything for the future with Coan. At best, this quasi pro-style offense we’re trying to run was going to be a one-year stopgap even if it was effective, which it most definitely is not. We’re going to be starting Pyne or Buchner starting in 2022 and for the next couple years, so why are we bashing our heads against an offense that only has 7 or 8 more games to play?
Hey, great minds.
Good news, everyone, Drlck and I fixed the offense!
*For next year. Results of the OSU and Clemson games may vary. Also, not 100% on BYU, UNC, USC or Stanford. Marshall, Cal and UNLV – 25+ points guaranteed.
This team isn’t winning anything in 2022 with Pyne at QB; there’s a 0% chance he could lead us to a playoff appearance. And Buchner apparently isn’t ready to run a real offense yet. So go with the guy who you think can get you as many wins as possible this year. I don’t know if that’s Coan or Pyne. But I do know you shouldn’t sacrifice wins this year to try to build around Drew Pyne for 2022. If the staff thinks Coan can get you to 10-2 this year vs. Pyne getting you to 8-4, take Coan for sure.
If they still go Coan, there absolutely has to be a difference in the plays they’re calling for him early on. 1 read, then throw it away. Quick passes to the outside. It also needs to be pounded into Coan that he cannot just stand there. If there’s any sort of lane, take 4yds rushing and make the defense think twice.
Still confused as to what benefit Coan brings to the table, long term. What’s the difference between 10-2 and 8-4 postseason wise? If playing Buchner/Pyne gets them more experience and ready for next year, do that.
They’re not thinking long term, they’re thinking of winning this game and getting to the bye week at 5-1. I’m sure for Kelly there’s a big difference in 10-2 or 8-4 as far as how he would feel about the health of the program and the measures of success.
I don’t have a problem with any of that, more interested in the rationale of why there would be a belief that Coan is going to produce the best results given the recent outputs he’s had.
Buchner with a limited package and not a full grasp of the offense isn’t going to be gaining good experience that will be beneficial. I’m glad he’s more to the periphery now, at this point. He’s the future but he doesn’t need to start a ton of games and get shelled on this team and expect him to be great next season, it’s not going to work like that.
Which really would leave Pyne, who is mobile enough and experienced enough to run the offense. IMO he should have started last week, and after another data point of games, it’s even more clear Pyne > Coan for best chance of success for this offense.
Again, I don’t think its 10-2 (w Coan) or 8-4 (w Pyne/Buchner), but that’s the only semi logical reason to go with Coan at this point. I’d still push back on that rationale, as someone not named Jack Coan will be starting in Columbus in ~45 weeks. So, I’d think experience in one of Pyne/Buchner + incoming recruits + experience/chemistry on the O-Line should all be factored into the “health of the program and the measure of success”
QB experience doesn’t necessarily equate to QB success was my point. Playing Buchner this weekend when he doesn’t have a grasp of the playbook and the line stinks isn’t going to make him any more likely to play well against Ohio State in a long 45 weeks from now.
I think you’re looking too much at the big picture to even think 8-4, 10-2, next season, etc. They just want to get in and out of Blacksburg with the win and, presumably, think Coan gives them the best shot. I don’t know why they would think that, but it’s pretty easy to understand why 2022 Ohio State ought not be a factor in October 2021 when the young QB isn’t ready.
I can understand that logic, so long as it’s coupled with a switch to Pyne and adjustments to playcalling over the bye week. And, of course, whatever we can do to get the OL to merely regular bad.
Overall, I think Kelly does better when he’s thinking about the big picture rather than just surviving the next handful of games. Arguably the best coaching decision he ever made at ND was switching to Book in 2018, which was planned months in advance and part of a long-term “arc of the season” strategy.
I can live with Coan for one more game, I guess, but if he’s out there walking into sacks against GT, then we’ve wasted an entire season, and we’re going to feel it next year.
Yeah, I’m sure they picture Coan being competent, but he’s less mobile than expected and the line is less sturdy, so something has to give.
Really, Coan’s ankle injury after Wisconsin should have been enough of an excuse to go full time to get Pyne practice reps and take over, so who knows, perhaps the heart emoji status every fan has for Pyne is a lot better from what he shows on a daily basis.
Which is probably sum of all fears if true — Coan is banged up, immobile and a gunshy bad fit, Pyne is too inconsistent/weak arm for deep shots, Buchner has barely played in the last 3 seasons and isn’t ready for QB1 action.
Drew Pyne isn’t going to beat OSU in Columbus, no matter how many snaps he gets this year. In no world would I sacrifice 2 wins in order to get Drew Pyne more experience for the future.
Buchner is a totally different story, but it seems like the staff doesn’t seem to think he’s even close to ready at this point.
How did TyJuan Garbutt do in the East/West College Bowl last year?
I wouldn’t be shocked if this turns out to be an impressive bounce-back game. Kelly has proven effective at rallying the team when things seem particularly bleak — Utah 2010, Michigan State 2011, LSU 2014 and 2017, VT 2019.
But none of those were true road games, and they generally involved some degree of offensive adjustment on ND’s part. Neither of those factors appear to be present for this one.
VT 17 ND 13
For the record, if I did this preview I would’ve predicted a 64-0 score with Jack Coan running for 5 touchdowns. Wow, this is such a negative preview.
I’ll lay 50 bucks on ND winning by 40. Anyone want to bet me? We can figure out payment methods later.
I’ll bet you a case of Beer 30 Light and/or fight you in the parking lot.
OK, which parking lot? lol
crap i didn’t think you’d accept
That was my secret plan all along!
40 by halftime or the end??
At the 3:30 mark of the 3rd quarter.
You think Ron Powlus III is going to lead this offense to no points for 18.5 minutes?
In all reality I think Ron Powlus III might lead this offense to negative points if he was in the game for 18.5 minutes.
Hey! What are you guys doing with the lame jokes, when so many of us want to feel miserable about Kelly’s unhinged QB decision ?
My bad. I’ll stop commenting so that you can curl up in a corner and weep uncontrollably.
I’ve been hankering for a QB switch, like most of you, but Pyne is not making this an easy decision to turn to him. Apparently he is not impressing the coaches in practice, plus a completion % in the 40s for the Cincy game. I wonder if a tag team of Coan (statute) + Pyne (threat to run) might work out better than the tag team of Coan (statue) + Buchner (always going to run)
What is Brendon Clark’s status again? Any chance he comes back this year? It’s a pretty tough position to be in to think all of your QBs are basically bad.
I don’t think he practiced at all in the spring so I doubt it, even if he’s physically capable of playing right now.
That is indeed a tough position, and there are some uncomfortable questions about how we got here.
Does anybody know how to watch this game. My cable provider doesn’t carry ACC Network. I know we discuss this crap every week, but now it’s my turn to ask.
Legends tell of a place called sportsurge.net. usagoals is another fabled oasis in the streaming desert…
I think YouTube TV carries ACC Network. I think they give you a free week or so trial.
This worked!! Thank you!!
Thanks it did work. Glad I didn’t miss that game.
This is going to be very very very bad football even without factoring in the weather
To make a long story short I think ND guts one out because the defense is too good for VT to actually do much despite how terrible the OL plays
ND 14 VT 10
(i am also high on copium so,,,,,)